I don't think Jack Layton should be Prime Minister or Leader of the Opposition -- but not because of something he wasn't charged with fifteen years ago.
Specifically, fifteen years ago Jack Layton was not charged with being a found-in in a bawdy house (apparently he had a massage somewhere that the police were investigating and they interviewed him).
Well, I imagine twenty years ago Stephen Harper was not charged with trafficking heroin.
And maybe thirty years ago Michael Ignatieff was not charged with bank robbery.
Some may scoff but I was looking forward to Sun TV being a new view on the news. Perhaps not my view but something interesting and worth considering -- if this trash is their fare, well, this isn't worth watching.
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I agree totally. I'm not a Layton fan, but this kind of last minute muck-raking is ridiculous. Layton is smart to brush it off and just carry on, and for the Sun network to interrupt regular programming for two hours because of this "big" story is ridiculous. I also wanted more from this station, and so far, they are letting me down.
Ah - you lefties dig up old quotes that Harper made in the 1990's and that's just fine but if Layton engages in prostitution WE are the ones being dirty. Classic.
Craig, if you have some facts please share them. If you you have is inuendo and unsubstantiated gossip, then go work for the S(t)un...you'll fit right in.
I don't believe it is unsubstantiated gossip. Olivia states he was there, getting a rub down. The police report has some pretty juicy details.
If it had been Harper? Wow. Front page news.
Lol anon...you sound like a conservative, skip the facts and forget about using your brain.
I agree, anti-Harperites drag up any muck they can. even quotes that e didn't say, to assert their position he is a baby-eater. Layton voted against C-49 which would have made it easier to protect immigrants from sex slavery. And he has a history of using the services of young asian prostitutes. You say "innuendo and gossip" I say, read the police notes... "...he was found naked in the presence of a 20 year old asian girl at 1:32 AM".
I don't know about you, but the last time I went to a legitimate RMT, it was not at 1:32AM and I did not have to strip to my birthday suit, AND the room did not have a red/green light system to warn the RMT if the cops showed up.
As to other facts, if you doubt my claim that Layton has a history of asian prostitutes, go check out the public records of his divorce stored at the Toronto Courthouse on University.
>A different Anonymous...<
Well looks like Jack has the prostitute vote locked up.
I'm really pulling for him in this erection.
Who cares if he got a rub and tug. He's still getting my vote. ABC.
I totally agree as well James. I've been utterly disgusted by the Harper initiated mud slinging in this campaign. And on and on.
NOTE to the mud slinging politicians. I've been working on this campaign and calling residents in my riding to get their support and reminding them to go and vote.
AND - quite a few have told me how **sick** they are of the way this election has been played out and that they will either a. NOT vote or b. go and SPOIL THEIR VOTE!!
So QUIT IT these last 2 days! The people whose votes your are courting and that includes me - DON'T WANT this crap from Canadian politicians!!
Daria S
Hear me!
If Layton was caught literally with his pant down, then the only reason he wasn't charged is because he is in the political class.
You are not allowed to be naked getting a message in an unregistered bawdyhouse.
Sorry, but Mr Layton should be ashamed of himself.
But then again, all the politicians in Canada should be ashamed at the mafia style corruption.
Unfortunately this has happened before and just recently.
Rob Ford was treated shabbily by the media. Reports that he assaulted a child were outright lies. "Progressive" commentators without guilt referred to him as a fat slob.
Of course, it didn't work in the end.
There is not media in Canada.
Only anointed individuals who are paid a handsome sum of money to carry the team's water.
Politicians, government bureaucrats, unions, the media, are all above the law.
This is a big game between the powerful in Canada.
After this election, the average Canada will be forgot about and the elites will go back to sipping lattes and talking about Mao and Stalin.
That's it.
Our politicians do fuck all when it comes to anything.
Harper is corrupt.
The whole system is corrupt.
And now Canadians are "thinking" about putting a Marxist in power?
Are Canadians stupid?
Karl Marx was. His ideology has killed tens of millions.
Yet Mr Layton might become P.M?
And emulate Karl Marx?
This is unbelievable.
Anonymous 8:50, have you even read Marx? Of Maoist Chinese history? Or Stalinist Russia?
Your paranoid answer would say no. It really isnt applicable to Canada but feel free to bluster on.
Craig Smith - building on that tradition of Tory hypocrisy I see. Maybe your side should consider letting the NEP go too while your at taunting others about double standards.
Anonymous 1:20. It wouldnt have been front page news. The govt would have said that it was no big deal, the people of Canada dont care and to give the guy a break. Then, the media would probably "lose interest". That seems to be the modus operandi these days.
"different anonymous" - I live in BC, why dont you do the legwork and access those public records, if you have the courage to do so.
As Kate Mcmillan has noted http://twitter.com/#!/katewerk/status/64141062251360257,
"To me the issue is a guy who gets his wife to respond to the fact that he was caught in a whorehouse during a poice raid."
Yet another Anon.
Jack Layton was in charge of the committee for the Police budget at the time, which is why he wasn't charged.
So you are saying it's ok for the guy who wants to be PM to support snake heads,and Asian triads, who traffic in humans and use them as sex slaves???
It's not the sex. I don't care who gets off Jack, it's the crime syndicate that goes with it, and human suffering. Are you saying he couldn't tell the difference between an Asian gang run sex parlour and a massage therapy clinic??? Because it's pretty easy to tell the difference.
You really have some interesting takes on the law Mr. Morton, not all of which are worthy of respect.
Yes, I know, people. You should not be concerned what your leaders are up to......as long as it's not your daughter.
As if it weren't enough that NDP governments spend public money like water until there is nothing left. This man is not getting my vote.
Hilarious that Jack Layton actually thinks that people will believe that he thought it was a legitimate Massage Clinic ... does he think we are that dense! Only those who put party allegiance above everything can defend this action. Those defending him have just as little integrity as he has. And to attack a news agency (how ever classless as the Sun is) because they report it is a suppression of free speech and an attempt to muzzle the press.
He used a prostitute ... plain and simple.
Here's the place in question.. You decide. Jack went for 1 reason only... and he admits thee story is true - that he was there.
No smear.. just truth.
http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=UTF-8&gfns=1&q=787+Dundas+St.+W.,+Toronto&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=787+Dundas+St+W,+Toronto,+ON+M6J+1V1,+Canada&ei=njO8TfOIBozksQO2sJDLBQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ8gEwAA
Ok wait a second. He admits to being found in a massgage parlor that was suspected of being a bawdy house. He also has no answer as to why he was nude. That's all that was reported so how is that 'smear'? And secondly, is it really that hard to figure out what's going on at a place like that wheteher licensed or not...gimme a break ?
Layton is a hypocrite and he just got 'made'.
Both the political left and right engage in smear tactics, but there is a big difference between the two. 99% of the smears from the left are lies, like the Toronto Star's phony smear against Rob Ford or Dan Rather's use of forged documents against George Bush. So called smears from the right aren't really smears, because they're true about 99% of the time, and the truth isn't a smear, like in this case with Jack Layton or Bill Clinton with Monica. Anyone who believes that Jack Layton was naked in a known brothel at 1:32 AM to receive a legitimate shiatsu massage is stupid enough to vote NDP.
What is so unbelievable about the news on Mr. John (Jack is not his legal name) Layton's visit to the "shiatsu" establishment is that:
a) he was not some impressionable young man unfamiliar with Toronto - he was at the time a well seasoned Torontonian and a city politician and a married man and a middle aged individual with enough years behind him that he should have known better;
b) instead of Mr. Layton holding himself to a higher standard given his position he chose to engage in the exploitation of the most vulnerable people in society - individuals who are forced to work in a demeaning trade.
This is a matter of extremely poor judgment exercised by a man who aspires to be Prime Minister of Canada. The fact that this happened many years ago does not excuse Mr. Layton. This did not happen when Mr. Layton was a misguided youth - Mr. Layton was a middle aged married city politician well familiar with Toronto's neighbourhoods.
Anon at - April 30, 2011 11:32 AM
AS soon as you mention Kate's name, we lose credibility.
Why is it that nobody is discussing how Jack and Olivia were living in government assisted housing while they were both city of Toronto councillors
I'm shocked by the amount of stupidity that flows on this page. It was registered, it was never found to be a real prostitute haven, just an investigation. He wasn't charged with nothing. And yes i go to bunch of massages after the gym and they ask me to get naked. So just get over it, he got asked three questions over a decade ago about a massage. People just want to make us forget that someone wants to buy useless fighter planes instead of creating more jobs within our country tyvm. Trolls.
sassy,
But why did Jack get his wife to respond to the fact that he was caught naked on his back on a mattress in a whorehouse during a police raid?
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