Monday, December 14, 2009

Canada's long-gun registry protects public safety, don't pass private member's bill

Good piece in the Hill Times by the AG.

http://www.hilltimes.com/page/view/bentley-12-14-2009

Before a police officer knocks on a door, they want and need to know whether the person behind that door owns a gun. The gun-registry provides police with that valuable and sometimes life-saving knowledge and is one of the reasons why police support keeping it

By ONTARIO ATTORNEY GENERAL CHRIS BENTLEY​
Published December 14, 2009

TORONTO—Canada's long-gun registry helps to save lives, protect communities, and prevent crime. It is an important public safety resource that our police use every day in the important work they do.

This fall a federal private member's bill to eliminate Canada's long-gun registry has been working its way through Parliament and will soon be considered by a House of Commons committee. As a government that is doing everything in its power to stop the agony caused by gun violence, Ontario urges all federal Members of Parliament to support public safety and stop the bill.
James Morton
1100-5255 Yonge Street
Toronto, Ontario
M2N 6P4

416 225 2777

8 comments:

CanadianSense said...

How many vote losing issues are the Lib going to chase in 2010?

After 2009 someone should should have kept a score on bad ideas.

Unknown said...

So CS only pick vote getters such as the famous drop the GST against the advice of all economists and get elected.

On the other hand, the issues which don’t get you votes; can those ideas. No matter if law enforcement agencies support the issue (gun registration) and can justify why the registry is needed.

Here’s one reason to keep the registry.

Continuous-Eligibility Screening
All current POL or PAL firearms licensees are recorded in the Canadian Firearms Information System (CFIS), which automatically checks with the Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC) every day to determine whether a licence holder has been the subject of an incident report in CPIC. All matches generate a report entitled Firearms Interest Police (FIP) that is automatically forwarded to the relevant CFO for follow-up. Some of these reports require no further action, but some prompt a review of the individual’s firearms licence and may result in its revocation, allowing police to seize the firearms. This continuous-eligibility screening reduces the likelihood that an individual who has been identified as a potential risk to public safety will be permitted to retain possession of firearms.
In 2008 there were 102,841 FIP.

Firearms Prohibitions

If an individual in possession of a firearms licence is identified as being the subject of a prohibition or probation order, they would be instructed to turn in their licence and dispose of all registered firearms. Upon notification from the courts, the CFO would administratively revoke the individual’s licence.
The Registrar of Firearms would revoke registration certificates of registered firearms in these cases and provide instructions to the individual on how to dispose of firearms. The Registrar would also refuse any in-process application to register firearms and advise police regarding the revocation.
Firearm prohibition and probation orders are captured in the Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC) Persons File and form part of the background and continuous eligibility checks. In 2008, there were 254,036 individuals prohibited from possessing firearms.”
(That’s from 1999 to 2008; 254,036 individuals total.)


Without the registry; tell me old wise CS how would the police seize all the firearms from a person who had their firearms licence revoked? Don’t say search warrant, because a person doesn’t have to store all their firearms at their residence.

CanadianSense said...

Luke I don't support 100% of what the current government does but the LGR is a vote loser.

Anyone can cherry pick statistics and reports.

Crime and use of Gun violence was going down before the introduction of this bad policy. The Auditor General found the Registry was full of errors and was over budget by a couple of bucks!

So a knee jerk reaction to a mass murder does not make good policy. Using two billion on hiring front line officers for tackling crime would have been much better.

The coalition is free to cite any study and justify spending millions again to update and get it right again. If you have not noticed since 2000 when the Liberals held 40% of the vote it has gone only in one direction.

EternaLee said...
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EternaLee said...

The CTF opposes the gun registry and will continue to do so: http://taxpayer.com/issues/federal/fed-end-long-gun-registry.

OldBlackhat said...

BS. Political Correctness run amuck. Nothing but a useless job creating vote buying scheme.

zeister said...

I read Ignatieff's defence of the long gun registry. How did he do it with a straight face? Only a Liberal steeped in religious conviction as to the party's devinity could believe this tripe.

The dogged defence of this false god means the Liberals need more time in the wilderness to cleanse their souls. I don't have to love Harper but he is the best choice at the moment and the CPC is doing what they said they would. That unfortunately, is not a Liberal trait.

Nor does the Liberal gun control policy recognise the historic gun culture of millions of Canadians. Therefore Liberal policies are NOT inclusive of ALL Canadians.

zeister said...

Ah Luke, another one that confuses a non-productive registration with the benefits of individual licensing. No one has suggested dropping licensing as it does contribute to public safety. Only the non-productive long gun registry is on the chopping block and for sound reasons.

Read Bill C-391 and put your mind at rest. Join the majority that want to see the end of the long gun registry!

Why would a license require ongoing scrutiny? If it is revoked due to criminal activity or mental deficiency then police can move to remove firearms. Think this through and you will see registration has nothing to do with licensing and does NOT guarantee removal.

ALL police associations, agencies & rank and file DO NOT support the long gun registry. Claims of universal police support are an oft told LIE that does not stand up to examination. Probably more police damn it than support it.