Sunday, June 27, 2010

Lawlessness and legality at the G20

The lawlessness during the G20 Summit in Toronto was deeply disturbing but was, by international standards at least, fairly tame. Injuries were limited, property damage minimised and violence contained. Total arrests seem to have been around 550 so far and in all likelihood most charges will be resolved without the need for a trial.

A large, peaceful and orderly demonstration took place without incident. The voices of legitimate dissent were heard and as Toronto Police Chief William Blair observed, the trouble came from "a small group of criminals whose only motivations are violence and destruction, who have appalled those who came to express their views in a peaceful manner." Legitimate protesters cried "shame" at those smashing windows -- sadly to no apparent effect.

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14 comments:

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ck said...

A few bloggers, myself included believe much of the violence was staged; too many weird things and a lot didn't fit.

Also, here are some accounts of the police abuse of power:

http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/06/27/g-20-protests/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Benedictionblogsoncom+%28Benedictionblogson.com%29

And accounts from a media accredited (yes, he had his credentials on him) McGill reporter:

http://mcgilldaily.com/articles/31295

Many videos and pics available.

Unknown said...

Police used cruel and inhumane treatment tonight, detaining people in rain for 4 hours. Constitution voided this weekend. Police abused power and stopped and demanded identification from people wearing black or wearing a backpack.

Women mistreated and watched by male guards at detention centre. Misogyny at work in detention centre.

Bill Blair must resign. Twice this year he has failed the people of Toronto.

People of Ontario and Canada deserve a public explanation. The people deserve a public inquiry.

Anonymous said...

CK, did you hear the theme from the X-Files when you thought of that?

Anonymous said...

Either Morton doesn't keep up or he's an apologist. Deconstruct it or stfu.

Mark Richard Francis said...

Anon,

We know that the Quebec police played games at the Montebello event, going undercover to provoke and agitate.

They admitted it after being caught.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/08/23/police-montebello.html

So it's not far fetched to believe certain instances this were staged or encouraged.

Fred from BC said...

ck said...

A few bloggers, myself included believe much of the violence was staged; too many weird things and a lot didn't fit.


Of course you do. And you also believe that 9/11 was staged by George Bush and the CIA under orders from the Jews, don't you?

Fred from BC said...

Anonymous said...

Either Morton doesn't keep up or he's an apologist.


No. He's just older and wiser than you.

Fred from BC said...

Mark Francis said...

We know that the Quebec police played games at the Montebello event, going undercover to provoke and agitate.

They admitted it after being caught.



NO THEY DID NOT. They admitted no such thing, and in fact insisted that they had neither acted as instigators nor committed any illegal acts. A lot of left-wingers like to *think* they were guilty of something (carrying a rock just doesn't cut it, sorry) but those are nothing but unsubstantiated allegations. Anyone claiming otherwise is lying.

You conspiracy nuts are hilarious...:)

Stephen Downes said...

Quebec police have admitted they went undercover at Montebello. This is taken from the CBC article, "Quebec police admit they went undercover at Montebello protest"

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/08/23/police-montebello.html

They deny acting as agitators, though they were caught on video acting as agitators.

There's good reason to suppose the same tactic was employed in Toronto, and interestingly, the same shoe-based evidence emerges.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/211154-The-Toronto-G20-Riot-Fraud-Undercover-Police-engaged-in-Purposeful-Provocation-At-Tax-Payers-Expense

Anonymous said...

There were more deaths at a boxing day sale in Toronto than at the G20summit. The cops did a great job.

They will be critisized by some for being too agressive and too placcid by others.

Back to the World Cup.....

The Rat said...

Duuude, Downes, you're smoking too much weed, man. You're paranoid. Black boots can be purchased in any Marks Work Wear World, and mismatched socks as a "signal"? Come on, is THIS really the Liberal party in 2010?

Fred from BC said...

Downes said...


They deny acting as agitators, though they were caught on video acting as agitators.


In YOUR humble opinion, you mean? Others differ; as I said above, there is no evidence of it at all. And 'evidence' is the standard that honest people use when making (or judging) an accusation.

There's good reason to suppose the same tactic was employed in Toronto, and interestingly, the same shoe-based evidence emerges.


Right. So these thugs would certainly have no way of knowing that, and they would NEVER stoop so low as to deliberately wear those shoes to confuse the issue, is that your story? wow...

Fred from BC said...

Willliam A. Hoch said...

Police used cruel and inhumane treatment tonight, detaining people in rain for 4 hours. Constitution voided this weekend. Police abused power and stopped and demanded identification from people wearing black or wearing a backpack.


When those "peaceful protesters" first saw the black-clad morons smashing store windows, upending mailboxes and setting fire to police cars, that was the time that they should have done one of two things: either put a stop to it, or turn around and leave. What they did instead was stand around cheering and taking pictures, in effect making themselves *accessories* to these criminal acts.

Sorry...no sympathy here. None.