There is only one reason to have bullets -- to put them in a gun.
Police charge, identify all three suspects in last month's attack
Colin Freeze
Globe and Mail
Fifty-calibre bullets, military-grade ammunition, was recovered in raids against the Ottawa suspects accused of firebombing a bank last month.
"It's alarming when you look at the ammunition seized," said Ottawa Police Chief Vern White, at a press conference Saturday morning. Police say they don't know why the suspects had the bullets.
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It's probably because it's army surplus ammunition.
Did these loonies have a firearms permit?
So, in his wisdom, Harper holds the G20 in the banking/financial district - good grief.
And, in his wisdom, Layton keeps up the bad, bad corporation rhetoric.
James, thought I might share this with you. A lifetime ago, while a reporter for CBC TV in Ottawa, I did a feature piece about Basford's gun control initiative. There'd been a killing of an Ottawa cop at a seedy residence followed,days later, by the police killing of a gun-wielding nutjob in a saloon parking lot. Next door to the bar was a militaria shop festooned with a huge Nazi flag and a poster protesting Basford's bill. I interviewed the shop keeper who told me there were a lot of people, good, law-abiding folks, who enjoyed collecting what were soon to be prohibited weapons.
This guy put me in touch with a middle-aged postal worker who lived in his mother's small bungalow. In a cheap wood-panelled room in her basement, the son had a genuine arsenal - a tripod mounted 50 cal. Browning machine gun, a similar 30 cal. machine gun, belts of ammunition for both including armour-piercing, and no fewer than 30 other automatic weapons - light machine guns and assault rifles with scads of ammo. There was even a German WWII, rapid fire MG-43 with an Ottawa Police property tag still wired to the barrel.
This guy quickly turned edgy and tossed me out before I could get any film of the dungeon arsenal but not before telling me he had plenty of pals who had their own heavy weapons collections.
A couple of months later there was an armoured car robbery in downtown Ottawa. The bandits backed their panel van in front of the armoured car, opened the doors and revealed a tripod mounted, heavy machine gun of the same type I'd seen in this character's basement. Realizing it could open a Brinks truck like a tin can the crew very wisely handed over everything they were carrying.
It does seem that there are at least a few of these "collectors" out there, some of them pretty dubious types and they're at ease living and travelling through urban areas.
And no, ridenrain, they don't bother with unobtainable firearms permits.
So how many crimes are caused with machine guns? From your little story, there must be many mentioned in the police reports. While your digging, what about crimes caused with .50 rifles?
Looks like these boobs are giving anarchists a bad name.
Let's put it this way ridenrain, they don't go away like last year's petunias. Heavy calibre weapons aren't used in many robberies because they're, well heavy, and unwieldy and only suit that Brinks truck robbery. That said, a lot of the lighter weapons are popular with those who have a specific use for them. Think bikers for starters. Do a little research and you'll find there is a healthy market for prohibited weapons.
There may be a healthy market in prohibited weapons but nothing in that report relates to prohibited weapons or ammunition. .50 calibre ammunition is perfectly legal, if very expensive and hard to obtain because of US export restrictions, as are many rifles that fire it. And of course the update says the ammo was just stored in boxes marked .50 cal but was in fact 7.62mm. Again, nothing illegal on the face of it, heck I have a couple thousand rounds of 7.62 surplus ammo in my basement in .50 cal marked boxes. I don't have a clue what they mean by "military grade" ammo but they seem to imply it is more dangerous somehow. That's just plain wrong as military ammo for the most part if fully jacketed as per the Geneva conventions and less deadly by far than ammo used to hunt. Hunting ammo has expanding and fragmenting designs intended to do terrific damage in order to quickly and humanely kill game.
The only illegal act relating to firearms (so far) was possession of ammunition without a permit.
MoS: Can you provide a link to that news story?
A year ago they pulled a 9mm Mac-11 machine pistol from the Fraser River here in Vancouver. A weapon that was never legal in Canada, in any form, completely restricted in the US, so it clearly was only used by the criminal element. A group that the registry ignores. Meanwhile, I can find no record of anyone using a .50 BMG round in a crime.
Keep in mind that the .460 weatherby ( The original elephant gun) has been legal in Canada forever and there has been no demands for it's confiscation. I'd bet it's never been used in a crime in Canada.
I don't have a clue what they mean by "military grade" ammo but they seem to imply it is more dangerous somehow.
"Military grade" just sounds scarier, doesn't it?
In fact, it's not...it's actually LESS lethal than your average deer rifle round because it is 'full metal jacketed', which means that it will drill a nice neat little hole right through you (unlike a regular expanding bullet, designed to release all its energy inside the body).
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