Since firearm law is federal jurisdiction municipaliities can not choose to ban handguns. This, along with many firearm related topics is the problem in Canada. People just don't know what they are talking about. Registration of anything will never be about public safety. Registration is a form of taxation. This gun registry is about politicans playing on the ignorance of urban voters. Registration of anything has no bearing on public safety. Handguns have been registered since 1934 and since then has shown no evidence in reducing handgun death. So the logic is that now we should ban handguns (apply that to long guns)....and you wonder why gun owners are upset?
And the Liberals need the registries so they know which houses to raid when they ban all handguns (Martin) or semi-automatic firearms (Dion). Sorry, but "fixing" the registry is a non-starter.
News flash for the CBC. Liberal forum proves most Liberals approve of Liberal program.
The people who started this program will do and say anything to keep it alive because the whole purpose is to get those names for the next "safe city" program. It's all about confiscation.
James (I know)... I was making fun of the joke of a "police poll" that stood against the Police Associations/Chief's groups - indicating that your's on this Liberal forum was about as valid.
Bottom line: Registry saves lives. Saves officers' lives. Keeps a lot of guns out of psych patient's hands (confirmed). Might keep the loon who's threatened his wife gun-free by prohibiting purchase, and seizing the guns he does have.
Yep...the registry saves lives. That is why the last 14 of 16 officers killed where shot with registered long guns. People who kill people don't care about paperwork, period. We register cars to protect us from drunk driving right?
The only people who want the registry are the ones who are making money from it in some manner, or those who "feel good" about window dressings.
Or want a list of guns to confiscate. Why is it the media will not even acknowledge confiscation is a real motive behind the registry? Why have I not read anything about the RCMP reclassifying the T-97 and the High Standard shotgun as prohibited weapons? There are hundreds of gun owners who have had the government, through the RCMP, demand they turn over their legally purchased, registered in good faith firearms for uncompensated destruction! And this is with a Conservative government!
The registry allows a lot more than just knowing who has what guns. It allows the government to use models to see how many guns will be made illegal with small changes to the regs. The Liberals did just that when they used the hand gun registry to ban not specific hand guns but two calibers of ammunition. Were these super powerful bullets? Not at all, they just happened to be the two most common calibres used in handguns. By banning the .25 and .32 calibres they effectively banned over 40% of all handguns owned by Canadians and they offered no compensation whatsoever. Instead they "graciously" allowed owners to keep them until they die. Then their grieving family can be quickly visited by the local police who will, I'm sure, offer their condolences as they steal the deceased's property. This after Canadians had been assured for years that the registry was not to be used for confiscation.
When Liberal leader Paul Martin can promise to steal hundreds of millions of dollars of legally owned property in a desperate attempt to win an election, when Liberal leader Stepane Dion can promise to confiscate "military-style" rifles, it should be no wonder that Canadian gun owners don't trust government to know what they have in the gun cabinet.
I think the current government's getting very afraid of the unsung champions who could confiscate a long gun and break it over their knees - the raging rural grannies.
I think the current population who understands what is happening because of the registry is starting to become very afraid of this "control for the sake of control" attitude that the police chiefs/NDP/Liberals are displaying.
How about Vice-president of the Canadian Council of Women, life-long feminist (read left wing nutter), & member of the coalition for gun control. Leave it to the star to pass off some very entrenched partisan as some kind of unbiased Westerner.
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The long gun register should be fixed.
- Penalties for non-registration should start as non-criminal fines
- Aboriginal treaty rights must be protected
- Gun-owners' privacy needs protection
- There should never be a charge for long-gun registration
- Municipalities should be empowered to, if they choose to do so, ban handguns from their cities.
Wow! Your "scientific" poll shows 85% support keeping the registry!
Reminds me of the not-so-scientific poll on the policeman's forum that was even disavowed by the forum moderator...
Good post topic!
...yeah, and it'll be just as, er, valid as the voluntary long form census, er, survey. Long live truthiness!
Since firearm law is federal jurisdiction municipaliities can not choose to ban handguns.
This, along with many firearm related topics is the problem in Canada. People just don't know what they are talking about. Registration of anything will never be about public safety. Registration is a form of taxation.
This gun registry is about politicans playing on the ignorance of urban voters. Registration of anything has no bearing on public safety. Handguns have been registered since 1934 and since then has shown no evidence in reducing handgun death. So the logic is that now we should ban handguns (apply that to long guns)....and you wonder why gun owners are upset?
And the Liberals need the registries so they know which houses to raid when they ban all handguns (Martin) or semi-automatic firearms (Dion). Sorry, but "fixing" the registry is a non-starter.
Of course it's not scientific -- it's more a sense of the room
News flash for the CBC. Liberal forum proves most Liberals approve of Liberal program.
The people who started this program will do and say anything to keep it alive because the whole purpose is to get those names for the next "safe city" program. It's all about confiscation.
James (I know)... I was making fun of the joke of a "police poll" that stood against the Police Associations/Chief's groups - indicating that your's on this Liberal forum was about as valid.
Bottom line: Registry saves lives. Saves officers' lives. Keeps a lot of guns out of psych patient's hands (confirmed). Might keep the loon who's threatened his wife gun-free by prohibiting purchase, and seizing the guns he does have.
Cheers!
Yep...the registry saves lives. That is why the last 14 of 16 officers killed where shot with registered long guns.
People who kill people don't care about paperwork, period.
We register cars to protect us from drunk driving right?
The only people who want the registry are the ones who are making money from it in some manner, or those who "feel good" about window dressings.
The only people who want the registry
Or want a list of guns to confiscate. Why is it the media will not even acknowledge confiscation is a real motive behind the registry? Why have I not read anything about the RCMP reclassifying the T-97 and the High Standard shotgun as prohibited weapons? There are hundreds of gun owners who have had the government, through the RCMP, demand they turn over their legally purchased, registered in good faith firearms for uncompensated destruction! And this is with a Conservative government!
The registry allows a lot more than just knowing who has what guns. It allows the government to use models to see how many guns will be made illegal with small changes to the regs. The Liberals did just that when they used the hand gun registry to ban not specific hand guns but two calibers of ammunition. Were these super powerful bullets? Not at all, they just happened to be the two most common calibres used in handguns. By banning the .25 and .32 calibres they effectively banned over 40% of all handguns owned by Canadians and they offered no compensation whatsoever. Instead they "graciously" allowed owners to keep them until they die. Then their grieving family can be quickly visited by the local police who will, I'm sure, offer their condolences as they steal the deceased's property. This after Canadians had been assured for years that the registry was not to be used for confiscation.
When Liberal leader Paul Martin can promise to steal hundreds of millions of dollars of legally owned property in a desperate attempt to win an election, when Liberal leader Stepane Dion can promise to confiscate "military-style" rifles, it should be no wonder that Canadian gun owners don't trust government to know what they have in the gun cabinet.
I think the current government's getting very afraid of the unsung champions who could confiscate a long gun and break it over their knees -
the raging rural grannies.
Anon Deux
I think the current population who understands what is happening because of the registry is starting to become very afraid of
this "control for the sake of control" attitude that the police chiefs/NDP/Liberals are displaying.
The key word here is "understands"
Rural Raging Granny?
How about Vice-president of the Canadian Council of Women, life-long feminist (read left wing nutter), & member of the coalition for gun control. Leave it to the star to pass off some very entrenched partisan as some kind of unbiased Westerner.
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