Some American bishops have barred Catholic politicians who openly reject Church teaching from receiving Eucharist.
That makes sense as a bishop is supposed to monitor the behavior of parishioners.
But since when has the PMO been empowered to judge orthodoxy? And does this apply only to the Roman Catholic Church? Perhaps a question might be raised about Reform Judaism? Is it really Jewish? What about Ahmadis - are they really Muslim? I guess we will just have to ask the Prime Minister to find out:
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The Canadian Press
OTTAWA—Liberal MP Justin Trudeau says he is upset and offended by a Tory MP who publicly questioned his adherence to the Catholic faith.
Dean Del Mastro, the prime minister's parliamentary secretary, said on Facebook last month that it was outrageous the Catholic school board in his riding had invited Trudeau to speak for a second time.
Del Mastro asked in the post whether there were any tenets of the Catholic faith that Trudeau supports.
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The Republican Party of Canada bible thumps again! This is Harperland now (39.5% majority).
"Del Mastro told The Examiner he’s been confirmed, and got married, in a Catholic church, but now attends Calvary Pentecostal Church. He said he attends Catholic mass “from time to time.”
http://www.peterboroughexaminer.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?archive=true&e=1659856
Being a Catholic and a Pentecostal does not compute.... unless one is just a hypocrite and attends church for appearance sake.
Trudeau has had a history of saying stupid things himself.
I can understand his disappointment but Liberals have a long history of ridiculing politicians for their religious beliefs. Best example perhaps is Stockwell Day.
One of the reasons the Libs were reduced to third party status is this precise example. They tend to get very sensitive when others treat them the way they treat others.
Enjoy your festering.
Considering what the Liberal party stands for and what the Catholic Church believes, I don't know how one can be both. It's either or...
Matthew 6:24: "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other."
Hey brave anonymous, can you give me one single example of a Liberal MP making fun of any person's religion? Can you give me one single example of a Liberal of any sort questioning someone's chosen faith?
The only single example you have presented is a Liberal commenter who made fun of a conservative leader's scientific belief that the world was 6000 years old.
Get over yourself.
You can be a believer and a Liberal. In fact, Liberal values are very consistent with faith -- and since there were Bible quotes already I'll add some more:
Deut. 15:7. If there is a poor man among you, one of your brothers, in any of the towns of the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand to your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.
Deut. 26:12. When you have finished paying the complete tithe of your increase in the third year, the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the stranger, to the orphan and the widow, that they may eat in your towns, and be satisfied.
Lev. 19:19ff. Now when you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field, neither shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. Nor shall you glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather the fallen fruit of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the needy and for the stranger. I am the LORD your God.
Luke 12:33. "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys."
Very well put, James.
So now we get to attack based on imaginary friends. You get the government you deserve, Canada! All you had to do was pay attention.
How does this sit with abortion and gay marriage? Wasn't Paul Martin going to be ex-communicated back in 2004?
Give it a rest. Liberals are the first to attack someone over their Christian belief.
Give it a rest ridofbrain
That's the thing about Conservatives, we have long memories and Liberals have a long, dirty past.
I'm surprised Trudea wasn't charged for storing firearms in an uninhabited cabin. Anyone else would immediately face charges. In the eyes of the police, if they could be stolen, they must not have have been stored properly in the first place. Why didn’t the Canadian press pick up the story that one of the leading Liberal MPs owns guns and let them get stolen?
Wouldn’t be bias, would it?
Justin Trudeau is 'very' against abortion (he said so in article),
but believes women have the right to choose.
How can you be 'very' against abortion but also be okay with abortion????
hypocrit?
David Sweet is against homosexuality,
but also against gay teens being bullied,
he participated in 'it get's better' video.
How can you be very against homosexuality but willing to stand up for gay teens being bullied???
Do you see the difference?
I don't.
2 MPs with their own religion and values taking positions contrary to their 'personal' beliefs.
Except one is a Liberal MP in a snit because someone dared challenge his committment to the church,
and the other a Conservative MP who has been relentlessly accused of being a hypocrit for daring to support gay teens.
It must be talking point night at Conbot HQ. One thing's for sure, the spellcheck isn't working.
BTW nice bit of bias and lack of citing on your part ridofbrain
Seemed perfectly understandable to me. He said he was pro-life, but it wasn’t the Government’s business
Lets hope it makes Trudeau angry enough that he will run to lead the Liberal Party of Canada.
In the culture of the Liberal party it is acceptable to ridicule anyone labelled as "Christian right". They are to be feared and/or loathed.
I simply don't buy the classic line that "the right to choose" ends the debate. Abortion based on gender for example cannot be anything other than worrisome. Meanwhile in PEI, arguably the most Liberal province in the country, no abortions are performed.
Morality is not the Libs strength.
How can you be pro-life and favour capital punishment? That's a widely held, and conflicting, conservative view.
Faith is central to Canada and ridiculing people of faith is not acceptable. My Liberal Party is made up mainly of people of faith -- Catholic, Muslim, Jewish and yes Evangelical,,,
Right on The Dude. My sentiments exactly. Its hard to decide which is more asinine: the fact that Trudeau was attacked for his inconsistent devotion to myth or the fact that Trudeau got so upset about it.
As for most Canadians being "people of faith", maybe. I know a whole tonne of people who answer "uhhh Im ___(insert religion)" when the pollsters call but if you scratch the surface are nothing of the sort.
I'm with Dude and CK on this. While I respect people's right to believe whatever they want, I wonder about the mental acuity of those who believe in imaginary beings for which there is no evidence.
Alison, you appear to be one of those who doesn't see the forest for the trees.
Sad.
Actually Alison does see the forest for the trees. Others on the other hand prefer to imagine little fairies and unicorns in the midst.
Ridenrain,
The thing about conservatives is that facts don't matter. We have the lowest crime rate since 1973 and no conservative has changed a deficit into a surplus since 1889. Your great party has given us the worst deficit in the history of our country and yet still blindly believe that anyone else would overspend. Your scandals are adding up and the history books will see government as the worst government since confederation. Don't give us that whole "conservatives have a long memory" crap. If you did, you would hold your gloriouis leader's feet to the fire for all the non-open, non-accountable, overspending and personal attack ads. If Chretien and Martin were conservatives, you guys would have statues of them. Instead, you deny that harper has turned your children into debt slaves. How is that not a scandal?
The Dude;
How do you think Mulroney/Campbell got crushed?
Conservatives were decimated by their own base. Why? Because they created a deficit even though new taxes (GST) were geared to eliminate them.
Current deficits (look at Ontario under the Libs) are understood by the electorate but apparently not you, to be at least in part caused by international events.
You seem to think you can predict the future well. It is too bad you missed the collapse of the Liberal party. That was predictable; And so is your rhetoric.
Harper was running a deficit BEFORE any of the international events and stimulus spending took place. The Economic Action Plan! advertising campaign with its giant Conservative cheques made the deficit worse, but it was already there (after a huge Liberal surplus, too).
Religion is personal.You practice it in your own life. No where in the bible(or any other religious book) does it tell us to tell other people how to live their lives.
Mr. Trudeau never said he was ok with abortion. He is "ok" with respecting an individual's right to choose. What is so difficult to understand about that? Do you really want politicians bring their religious doctrine and agendas to public politics?
And as a person of faith, I have no problem with people being non believers. But to purposely degrade and devalue something(imaginary friends)that millions of other people have connected with, is just immature and petty. Can you not believe what you believe without having to devalue others?
Here is a hint. It is about raising one's consciousness to a higher level of understanding. It takes time and dedication to reach higher levels of consciousness.
Love seeks Unity. Fear and hate divide.
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