"Chairman Harper must have been quite embarrassed."
Why would Harper be embarrassed? It's the protesters who couldn't muster up the numbers. Obviously not as many people believe in their cause as they thought.
No surprise that the smelly hippies protesting capitalism can't muster the energy to wake up before noon. The Epoch Times has a good story about the Chinese embassy calling Canadian students to counter protest. http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/38068/
Spin it anyway you want to suit your agenda there, Paul, but the fact is the protest is a bust.
If the numbers were large and security was less than stellar and something did happen, you would be the first to deride Harper for "his lack of insight."
That's where you're wrong, Leeky. harper spent one billion dollars trying to convince Canadians, and visiting dignitaries, that Canada is some chaotic, riotous, violent land that needs police with "special" powers to curb the citizenry. This is Canada, not Bangkok.
Harper has made himself look a fool, trying to convince the world that he must control us, when in fact, we are quite in control of ourselves. We will protest, but we will not riot.
The person who will try to spin this is Harper; we kept the streets safe. That's quite easy to do, when the streets are empty.
Harper wanted--needed--massive protests in the streets. He did not get them.
That's where you're wrong, Leeky. harper spent one billion dollars
No. The estimate was for 937 million dollars, and it remains to be seen if that number will even be reached. That number, by the way, has been confirmed by Kevin Page himself (no friend of the government) as being "not out of line" for what is being provided.
(keeping in mind also that the bulk of these costs are salaries which have to be paid to police and soldiers whether they are at the G20 or at their regular workplaces)
The person who will try to spin this is Harper; we kept the streets safe. That's quite easy to do, when the streets are empty.
Oops. I guess all those broken store windows and burning police cars don't fit that well into your little narrative, huh? Next time, maybe wait and see what happens first...
Harper wanted--needed--massive protests in the streets. He did not get them.
The prime Minister neither wanted nor needed any such thing. Nice try.
Well, so much for a peaceful, quiet event. All hail the mighty "progressive" march towards chaos and anarchy. I notice the CBC is finding very difficult not to call the rioters "thugs"
Oh, is that all? Well, that's just pennies. We should have two summits next year, if they're that cheap!
as being "not out of line" for what is being provided.
What exactly is being provided?
I guess all those broken store windows and burning police cars don't fit that well into your little narrative, huh?
Are you seriously comparing inanimate objects to people, Fred? So what you're saying, Fred, is that tax payers have paid 937 million to protect cars and shop fronts? ADT is grossly underpricing their services in that case.
I don't think it should have cost nearly ONE BILLION DOLLARS to round up a handful of Black Block members. But somehow, Harper managed to do just that. Actually...no he didn't. Never mind.
The prime Minister neither wanted nor needed any such thing. Nice try.
As you wrote, Fred, maybe wait and see what happens first... On Monday, Harper will be spinning like a Maytag.
Oh, is that all? Well, that's just pennies. We should have two summits next year, if they're that cheap!
In 2002, Jean Chretien spent 300 million on a two-day G8 summit in Kananaskis. This one was two summits, almost three times as many countries, in two different locations and 8 years later. The numbers work out just fine.
What exactly is being provided?
Same things as every other G8 or G20 conference. Why?
I guess all those broken store windows and burning police cars don't fit that well into your little narrative, huh?
Are you seriously comparing inanimate objects to people, Fred?
No. You're trying to use this as a red herring, and I'm laughing at you for it. :)
So what you're saying, Fred, is that tax payers have paid 937 million to protect cars and shop fronts? ADT is grossly underpricing their services in that case.
No. What I'm saying (and pay attention, now) is that when you made this statement:
The person who will try to spin this is Harper; we kept the streets safe. That's quite easy to do, when the streets are empty.
...that you weren't really thinking it through, were you? The streets were NOT empty and there WAS violence, so yes...the security costs were quite justified thanks to your black-clad friends (and their thousands of enablers). Can you imagine what they would have done if they'd been able to breach the fences and actually get into the conference itself?
I don't think it should have cost nearly ONE BILLION DOLLARS to round up a handful of Black Block members.
They didn't. They spent (whatever the total ends up being) on the TOTAL COSTS of both conferences in both places (security included). Quit trying obscure the real issue...it's cowardly and dishonest, and fools no one.
But somehow, Harper managed to do just that. Actually...no he didn't. Never mind.
You're right, he didn't. He rounded up, what...over 6 HUNDRED other protesters as well? That's a pretty big "handful", Paul...
As you wrote, Fred, maybe wait and see what happens first... On Monday, Harper will be spinning like a Maytag.
By all major media accounts, this summit was an unqualified success. Prime Minister Harper is being widely praised for it, both in Canada and internationally. Sorry.
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After seeing the pictures and the videos and such, I think riot cops outnumbered them
Chairman Harper must have been quite embarrassed.
"Chairman Harper must have been quite embarrassed."
Why would Harper be embarrassed? It's the protesters who couldn't muster up the numbers. Obviously not as many people believe in their cause as they thought.
If there's nothing to see here, then why do we have a full military presence and special laws to quell it?
Downes, to quote a saying:
You have to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
I'm glad the protest is small but better safe than sorry.
Cheers.
Leeky Sweek typed
It's the protesters who couldn't muster up the numbers.
Then,
I'm glad the protest is small
We've seen two faces of Leeky, can't wait for the third.
Fact of the matter is, Leeky, Harper threw a BILLION DOLLAR security party, and no one came.
"..but it's raining.. "
No surprise that the smelly hippies protesting capitalism can't muster the energy to wake up before noon.
The Epoch Times has a good story about the Chinese embassy calling Canadian students to counter protest.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/38068/
Spin it anyway you want to suit your agenda there, Paul, but the fact is the protest is a bust.
If the numbers were large and security was less than stellar and something did happen, you would be the first to deride Harper for "his lack of insight."
For shame.
That's where you're wrong, Leeky. harper spent one billion dollars trying to convince Canadians, and visiting dignitaries, that Canada is some chaotic, riotous, violent land that needs police with "special" powers to curb the citizenry. This is Canada, not Bangkok.
Harper has made himself look a fool, trying to convince the world that he must control us, when in fact, we are quite in control of ourselves. We will protest, but we will not riot.
The person who will try to spin this is Harper; we kept the streets safe. That's quite easy to do, when the streets are empty.
Harper wanted--needed--massive protests in the streets. He did not get them.
Paul Raposo said...
That's where you're wrong, Leeky. harper spent one billion dollars
No. The estimate was for 937 million dollars, and it remains to be seen if that number will even be reached. That number, by the way, has been confirmed by Kevin Page himself (no friend of the government) as being "not out of line" for what is being provided.
(keeping in mind also that the bulk of these costs are salaries which have to be paid to police and soldiers whether they are at the G20 or at their regular workplaces)
The person who will try to spin this is Harper; we kept the streets safe. That's quite easy to do, when the streets are empty.
Oops. I guess all those broken store windows and burning police cars don't fit that well into your little narrative, huh? Next time, maybe wait and see what happens first...
Harper wanted--needed--massive protests in the streets. He did not get them.
The prime Minister neither wanted nor needed any such thing. Nice try.
Well, so much for a peaceful, quiet event. All hail the mighty "progressive" march towards chaos and anarchy.
I notice the CBC is finding very difficult not to call the rioters "thugs"
The estimate was for 937 million dollars
Oh, is that all? Well, that's just pennies. We should have two summits next year, if they're that cheap!
as being "not out of line" for what is being provided.
What exactly is being provided?
I guess all those broken store windows and burning police cars don't fit that well into your little narrative, huh?
Are you seriously comparing inanimate objects to people, Fred? So what you're saying, Fred, is that tax payers have paid 937 million to protect cars and shop fronts? ADT is grossly underpricing their services in that case.
I don't think it should have cost nearly ONE BILLION DOLLARS to round up a handful of Black Block members. But somehow, Harper managed to do just that. Actually...no he didn't. Never mind.
The prime Minister neither wanted nor needed any such thing. Nice try.
As you wrote, Fred, maybe wait and see what happens first... On Monday, Harper will be spinning like a Maytag.
I wonder if the protests will continue with this weeks Toronto Pride parades and events?
Paul Raposo said...
The estimate was for 937 million dollars
Oh, is that all? Well, that's just pennies. We should have two summits next year, if they're that cheap!
In 2002, Jean Chretien spent 300 million on a two-day G8 summit in Kananaskis. This one was two summits, almost three times as many countries, in two different locations and 8 years later. The numbers work out just fine.
What exactly is being provided?
Same things as every other G8 or G20 conference. Why?
I guess all those broken store windows and burning police cars don't fit that well into your little narrative, huh?
Are you seriously comparing inanimate objects to people, Fred?
No. You're trying to use this as a red herring, and I'm laughing at you for it. :)
So what you're saying, Fred, is that tax payers have paid 937 million to protect cars and shop fronts? ADT is grossly underpricing their services in that case.
No. What I'm saying (and pay attention, now) is that when you made this statement:
The person who will try to spin this is Harper; we kept the streets safe. That's quite easy to do, when the streets are empty.
...that you weren't really thinking it through, were you? The streets were NOT empty and there WAS violence, so yes...the security costs were quite justified thanks to your black-clad friends (and their thousands of enablers). Can you imagine what they would have done if they'd been able to breach the fences and actually get into the conference itself?
I don't think it should have cost nearly ONE BILLION DOLLARS to round up a handful of Black Block members.
They didn't. They spent (whatever the total ends up being) on the TOTAL COSTS of both conferences in both places (security included). Quit trying obscure the real issue...it's cowardly and dishonest, and fools no one.
But somehow, Harper managed to do just that. Actually...no he didn't. Never mind.
You're right, he didn't. He rounded up, what...over 6 HUNDRED other protesters as well? That's a pretty big "handful", Paul...
As you wrote, Fred, maybe wait and see what happens first... On Monday, Harper will be spinning like a Maytag.
By all major media accounts, this summit was an unqualified success. Prime Minister Harper is being widely praised for it, both in Canada and internationally. Sorry.
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